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These are words that’ll let me translate stuff that I have noted in my lexicon to translate, so it’s a bit random. jaŋ – choose, decide, decision, choice. IPA: dʒaŋ chɯnchɯŋ – to retell, to tell a story, to narrate; a story, tale, or narration. From chɯŋ, to speak or tell. IPA: tʃɯn.sɯŋ fiβkii – to wear, a piece of clothing. … Continue reading “”

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Trying to catch up. These are all body parts. A couple are expansions of other meanings (I’m only including significant additions) and those have all the info. The rest I’m not taking the time to make the plurals and pronunciation and everything else. liiwnɒ – spine or snake. related to lin, long and narrow vooriy – attempt, … Continue reading “”

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Lexember 5

Dec. 8th, 2016 09:37 pm
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I’m a bit behind, but I’ll catch up tomorrow or so. I’m trying to get the entries in my lexicon that are in progress finished so I can tell what I’m missing. There’s about sixty of them. Anyway, here’s a word derived from an entry I worked on today. Lexeme: kymiirary Gloss: to frighten, to scare, […]

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I suppose I should give some quick background on my language. It’s called Ŋyjichɯn ( /ɱɪ.ˈdʒi.ʧɯŋ/ ) Because of its stress and alternation the pronunciation doesn’t match the spelling, although it’s predictable if a bit complicated. It’s a polysynthetic language with heavy noun incorporation, affixing, and reduplication. The default word order is SOV, but in practice the most … Continue reading “”

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I decided to do Lexember this year. For those of you who aren’t conlangers, that means I add a lexeme (basically a word) to my conlang everyday and share it. So, yay! Lexeme: sai Gloss: a common tree with smooth speckled bark and large lobed leaves Irregularity: Static Noun Combination Form: sai Stress: IPA: Nyjichɯn … Continue reading “”

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How about a word that I’ve actually got a sentence for? chun – cat, to be a cat, to be cat-like paucal / plural: chɯɯnnu / chunnu said: chum / chɯɯnnu / chɯnnu IPA: tʃoɱ / ˈtʃɯːn.no / ˈtʃɯn.no moŋ chunɯn βijy ŋazyvzɯ? Is that your cat? moŋ chun-ɯn βi-jy ŋa-zyv-zɯ 2.SG.POSS cat-ACC that-NOM 3.SBJ-3.POBJ-Q ɱɜŋ ˈtʃɯn.ɯŋ ⱱʏ.ˈtʃi nɜ.ˈzi.zɯ

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Woo! I’m up to 137 ‘words’ (lexemes) in my lexicon and 55 entries that don’t count (affixes and roots). Here’s a couple of words: nyki – leaf, feather, or scale. paucal / plural: nykyyki / nykiki pronounced: mity / mityy’ki / mityki IPA: ɱɪ.ˈdi / ɱɪ.ˈdiːʔ.gʏ / ɱɪ.ˈdi.kʏ And a word derived from it: natryyki – leafy, feathery, scaley from ‘nyki’ and ‘-atry-‘ […]

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I’ve been working on my conlang a lot. I have a newer version of the tiddlywiki to upload, but since everything is tagged ‘wip’ I’m holding off. I also started a tiddlywiki lexicon instead of doing it in Excel, because it’s more useful for translations and notes. I’ll upload that as well at some point. … Continue reading “”

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(weird spelling in the title to is how I write stuff when I don’t have the full character-set) As requested from my girlfriend. I actually thought I had this word and didn’t, so here you go. Our word of the day is ŋafnɯŋyɒ Meaning: girl. Literally ‘female child’. Can refer to people or animals (people only read more »

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I’m working on Ŋyjichɯn again. I’d like to get it up to 500 words and get the tiddlywiki cleaned up enough that I could submit it to the Conlangery Podcast to be considered for the featured conlang. Since I’m currently obsessing about it, I’ve decided to do a Ŋyjichɯn word of the day for at least a while. Our […]

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I’m working on translating something into Nyjichun that thedankabyss on tumblr asked for, when I discovered that something I was going to do with the pronouns in Ie, I had also done with Nyjichun. I, uh, may want to change that. Actually a couple things…

(I did inclusive vs exclusive we as well, but the main one I noticed is having multiple sets of pronouns each person – so you could, for example, refer to multiple men in a conversation without confusion or repeatedly using their names. Lojban apparently has it too, with the ko’a system – to no one’s who knows anything about Lojban surprise. In Nyjichun, it’s only for 3rd person, but in Ie I was going to do it for 2nd too. Since I’m doing other cool things with Ie’s pronoun system, I’ll just remove that…)

I think it’s a cool thing that would be useful, but I don’t need to do it in multiple conlangs.

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Figured out what interesting features I’m going to have in Ie.1 There’s going to be a complex pronoun system that I’m about ready to make a chart for, suppletive forms (not sure where exactly), and possibly going to make it fusional in some of the particles or somewhere if I can find a place? So yay, you can no longer say ‘yet another isolating analytic lang based heavily on Chinese.’ If I get around to doing a conscript for it (which I probably will, because I always do) it’s going to be featural.

  1. I was already including pivot construction, measure words, and verb serialization, but that falls under copying Cantonese []
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I still need to come up with something interesting for the language. I have culture ideas for one minority (the one Delia is part of, naturally), but nothing specific for the language. Listening to one of the Conlangery podcasts for ideas.

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Been working on a conlang that’s supposed to be a naming language for some of my comic characters (specifically Delia Troy Burton). I have an Hawaiian grammar from the 70s which I’m using as a model, because it’s the only grammar I have for an analytic language.

It’s called Ie.

At some point, I’ll probably upload my grammar like I did for Nyjichun. I’m currently doing it in HTML instead of in a TiddlyWiki. That may change or I may just make it more than one page at some point. I dunno.

Anyway, the point of this post was to share some words! It’s tonal and differentiates between aspirated and non-aspirated words, but for simplicity’s sake (and to keep from having to post the phonology) I’ll just give the romanticized form. The only note I’ll make is that /c/ is pronounced like /ch/ in English). No, I can’t pronounce most of it. See if you can pick out which words are compounds from other words! (Hint: not all the meanings are given here).

tuep zug – Adam’s apple
pov – bridge of nose
pi – cheek, cheekbone
puk – chin, jawbone
piod puk – chin (underneath)
tyiik – ear
dyuu tyiik – earlobe
kyiv – eye
tiu kyiv – eyebrow, eyelash
pyio – face
tiu – hair
tuep – neck, throat
zug – nose
xuu – tooth
tyii1g – arm, hand
bo – back
kie cuu1 biui – backbone, spine
cye tyiig – elbow
eb tyiig – finger
tŭe7t zĕ4n – heel
o1 – hip
cye zen – knee
zen – leg, foot
ang uom – navel
ang tyiig – palm
ii biui – rib
vo – shoulder
gyud biui – shoulder bone
xo ebtyiig – thumb
eb zen – toe
tuet – wrist

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A bunch of random things I wrote about the Nyjichun. Completely unedited, so rather rambling and full of notes to myself (in square brackets). To remind you all, the Nyjichun are the ‘race’ Wilykit and Wilykat and my oc, Felino, belong to. There are two major divisions of Nyjichun – the Taijin who are more of warriors and Wanrin who aren’t. Felino is Taijin. Wilykit and Wilykat are Wanrin. The Nyjichun grow slower than other Thunderians and are always shorter.

This is also in the Nyjichun tiddlywiki.

CN: funeral practices, extreme body modifications, racism of fantasy culture, specifically, mention of child theft,

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bibliobibuli n. – those who read too much, and hence tend to be unaware of or oblivious to the real world

Trying to clear out the backlog of links so this is going to be a big one. But I’m including pretties this time.

(as always pics are linked to their source and you can view more of my favorites on DeviantArt)

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Sorry, this is going to light on pretty pictures and heavy on things that are of limited interest to most people. You don’t like it, there are thousands of other blogs you could be reading.

Teach yourself linguistics

From all things linguistics:

Other Things

From Aveneca.com, host of the new CBB (aka the conlang board I’m on)

Linguistics lessons for language learners. Includes IPA, phonology, morphology, syntax, historical linguistics, sound change, and more. (from Nativlang, which also has some free lessons in different languages and published some books on Amazon and Lulu that look interesting)

It’s ‘not’ history – how negation usage changes in a cycle through languages. (from the University of Cambridge)

Lexique Pro – a free program for creating a lexicon for your conlang (or natlangs). I wish it was portable. Windows only.

How many languages did Tolkien make?

From Frathwiki.com, one of the conlang wikis:

  • Conlang Terminology – common jargon like lostlang, sketchlang, relex, ANADEW (Another Natlang Already Did it Even Worse).
  • Software Tools – a lot of the links are outdated, unfortunately, but there are word generators, several conlanging guides, sound change appliers, and more.
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In no particular order:

  • To get to 500 words / lexicon entries, not counting affixes (I currently have 371 lexicon entries, but that’s including affixes)
  • Write up a working grammar
  • Sketch out the culture beyond ‘they live in the forest’
  • Make a map of the area
  • Fix all the words I’ve marked as needing change
  • Redo the family words
  • Translate the Babel Text and at least two other long passages (I’m not sure what).
  • Write up enough lessons that I can pick it back up when I want to

After that, I’ll probably be burnt out on conlanging for a while, but if not, I want to fix up one of my other languages (something simpler, sheesh – probably Ylis, which is basically the English of Thundera) and then working on splitting Ŋyjichɯn into two dialects, which will mostly just be vocabulary changes.

I know probably no one cares, but I’ve uploaded a new version of the tiddlywiki. As always, and more visibly now, it’s a work in progress.

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Yeah, another conlanging post. I’ll move on to other things sooner or later.

So, I have the sprawling mess of a grammar for Ŋyjichɯn (which I need to upload again), but that’s not where I story my lexicon (or dictionary, or whatever you personally want to call it). The way I do it is culled from experience and things I’ve learned, mostly from the CBB board (aka, the conlang forum – there are others out there though) and Zompist (linking to the online Language Construction Kit, but looking through his other stuff is helpful as well).

I do it in Excel, because I tend to work on several computers and I haven’t found a portable lexicon program. It always starts with three columns: (conlang), English, and notes. Then columns get added in as I need them. The Ŋyjichɯn lexicon has the following columns, in order:

  • Alpha – the Ŋyjichɯn alphabetical order. It looks like gibberish because I use find and replace in another sheet or text document (or Zompist’s Sound Change Applier 2, aka SCA2) to change every letter to something else.
  • Group – a temporary column, to pull things out that I want to work on. Right now there are three groups: 1) 75 words I pulled out to completely fill in, 2) words that need I want to fix right now, and blank, aka everything else.
  • Lexeme – a lexeme is the basic form of the word before inflection. This is so I can sort it in English alphabetical order, because of the next column.
  • Modern – Ŋyjichɯn is going to get split into two dialects with the same grammar (mostly), but differect vocabulary. Modern Ŋyjichɯn is what I’m working on right now. This column has the words, with some inflections. It also screws up the sorting, because somethings (mostly pronouns) start with notes like ‘subject singular’ or something in parenthesis because the singular form isn’t used (eg, “(sing: rɯs)”). It could have been done in a better way. In the same cell, on a different cell is the paucal (small group) and plural of each noun, and the full inflection of the pronouns.
  • Stress – using no Unicode, I spell out the stress pattern of each word. This then gets run through SCA2 to give me the next column
  • Phonetic – like most languages, spoken Ŋyjichɯn doesn’t exactly fit the written version. It’s not as bad as some, but stress, phonemes interacting, and other factors leads to things like ‘nyma’ being pronounced ‘mima’ or ‘miftyk’ becoming ‘mistych’.
  • Combo – an abbreviated form of the words is used in certain situations.
  • Part of speech – normal stuff, except in Ŋyjichɯn most words can be used as verbs, so I’ve split the parts of speech into things like ‘descriptive (verb)’, ‘noun/static verb’, and then the normal stuff.
  • English – self explanatory, but it’s important not to have one-to-one relations as much as possible
  • Irr? – notes of whether and how a word is irregular
  • Etymology – Mostly empty (or actually marked ‘same’), but has things like ‘onomatopoeic’ and what words compounded to make another word.
  • Category – this is so I can find similarly themed words when I want to. I’ve got things like color, language, directions, anmials, etc, in a drop-down list (which I keep breaking when I add new columns) (I got the code for how to do it here.)
  • Notes – basically, anything else, including usage notes, historical notes, and what words it’s related to.
  • Wanrin & Tajin – these two columns are empty right now.

This is what it ends up looking like:

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(you’ll probably have to click on it to actually be able to read it)

I also keep adding worksheets. Besides the lexicon, I’ve got the notes for alphabetizing, the category list, and a list of parts of speech. And I have most of the numbers in a seperate file altogether. There’s also an Excel file of words I need to translate, along with notes about etymology and stuff.

So, does every lexicon need all this junk?

Nope. It depends on the language and what you’re doing with it. If you’re just making a naming language that will end up with a couple handfuls of words, you’ll probably need less detail. You have to customize it to what you need. Some people end up programming things for themselves (I can’t do that). If I wasn’t using multiple computers, I’d love to use Lexique Pro, which is designed for linguists. But Excel works well for sorting and finding things.

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Okay, I’ve finally uploaded the Ŋyjichɯn tiddlywiki*. I’ve also updated lesson one there, with more stuff and assignments (working with the idea that it’s meant to be a textbook). As any conlanger would tell you, it’s very much a work in progress and pretty much everything is subject to change at any time. But now I can go to the conlang forum and ask for input without having to rewrite things. Which is what I’m going to do next.

Notes for using the tiddlywiki: You can navigate from the Table of Contents or tagCloud. Links open below in the same window. I’ve got it set up so the last 20 or whatever links you follow show up on top. And no, you can’t edit it.

*  I should do a blog post about tiddlywikis. They’re very awesome.

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